The deep example: thought to be Tang Dynasty, according to the collector's inventory The smaller example: Song dynasty or earlier, Ding type, according to the collector's inventory Dimension: 12cm and 14cm diameter / weight 310g Condition: The deep example with a chip to the rim, the smaller example with four spur marks to the interior Provenance and Inventory: The smaller one (P267) purchased from an Indonesian Trader in 1969; The deep one (P187) purchased from China Art House